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Virginia Attorney General Intervenes
to Get GOP Candidates on Ballot
National Journal, by?Rebecca Kaplan

Original Article

Posted By:Drive, 12/31/2011 4:01:21 PM

FORT DODGE, Iowa ? Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and other Republican presidential candidates who failed to get onto the Virginia primary ballot may have a glimmer of hope thanks to the intervention of Virginia?s top lawyer. Fox News reported Saturday that the state?s attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli, is planning to file emergency legislation to change the Virginia law that has kept most of the GOP candidates off the primary ballot. Only former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Rep. Ron Paul met the requirement of 10,000 signatures to participate in the March 6 primary.

Reply 1 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/31/2011 4:07:17 PM?????(No. 8244562)

GREAT news. It is the right thing to do.

Reply 2 - Posted by: TXknitter, 12/31/2011 4:14:15 PM?????(No. 8244581)

Thank you Atty Gen Cuccinelli.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: vinwire, 12/31/2011 4:27:29 PM?????(No. 8244602)

I like this Cuccinelli.... a rising star.

Reply 4 - Posted by: god of irony, 12/31/2011 4:49:48 PM?????(No. 8244631)

Common sense over technicalities.

Reply 5 - Posted by: RedLegLeader68, 12/31/2011 4:59:00 PM?????(No. 8244646)

Like #3, I, too, really like this Cuccinelli guy. Has something on the ball that seems to be missing from a lot of others.

Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99, 12/31/2011 5:03:49 PM?????(No. 8244653)

LOVE Cuccinelli! He also was the first ( IIRC ) to file a suit against 0bamacare - within minutes of it passing. High hopes for his future too.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Dixie, 12/31/2011 5:06:45 PM?????(No. 8244662)

I am a Virginian and I strongly support States Rights. I also think that granting as many rights to the states as possible forwards the overall Constituional objective of giving more access to decision power to the CITIZENS of each state (not the ruling elite).

Virginia has gone astray in this Primary procedure by changing the long-time practice of not vetting the petitions of candidates who reached more than 10,000 signatures, although there was a legal right to do so. Perry and Gingrich quit soliciting signatures when they collected more than 10,000 signatures. Romney and Paul did not stop until they collected more than 15,000 signatures (for some unknown and, at the time, illogical reason, since this process is very expensive). In NOVEMBER, TOO LATE to collect a substantial number of additional signatures, did Virginia announce a change in the former long-time practice, and this year will vet petitions with fewer than 15,000 signatures.

This is a dirty tricks tactic worthy of Obama, who, at the state level, had eliminated his opponents via technicalities rather than defeating them in an open election.
Obama also has the money and people to flood all Republican ballots with ACORN votes, complete with false addresses.

But I also wonder about the rumors that Obama has promised the VP spot to Gov. McDonnell, McDonnell's subsequent endorsement of Romney, and rumors that Obama would rather run against Romney or Paul than anyone else.

Kudos to Ken Cuccinelli!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Dixie, 12/31/2011 5:11:23 PM?????(No. 8244669)

Sorry, major error in my Reply #7,,,

It should read:
But I also wonder about the rumors that ROMNEY has promised the VP spot to Gov. McDonnell, McDonnell's subsequent endorsement of Romney, and...

Sorry...too much commotion in my house when I was writing this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: glasslass, 12/31/2011 5:41:33 PM?????(No. 8244732)

#8 Just about caused a major apoplexy to the Max! VP for Obama?!!! Correction appreciated!

Reply 10 - Posted by: goforth, 12/31/2011 6:00:58 PM?????(No. 8244756)

Let's get those failing campaigns some remedial help!!Shall we not?
While being able to run a campaign does not necessarily mean one can run a vastly more complex entity like the country (witness Barry), someone who cannot even to do simpler things will definitely fail when handed the big task.

Reply 11 - Posted by: NellVada, 12/31/2011 6:23:14 PM?????(No. 8244798)

#10, getting on the ballot in 50 states is a big job; none of the candidates running are going to be a bad president simply because the state of Virginia made some last minute changes to make it even harder to get on the ballot. Besides, Obama made such a big deal out of the fact that his executive experience consisted of running a sucessful presidential campaign, and that this made him qualified to be president. Since he has been a miserable president, I don't think running a successful campaign counts one way or the other. I hope Virginia does open up its primary to all of the major GOP candidates; Republicans in Virginia should be allowed to vote for the candidate of their choice even if a clear winner fails to emerge out of the primaries, and leads to a brokered convention.

Reply 12 - Posted by: goforth, 12/31/2011 6:32:01 PM?????(No. 8244805)

#11
Newt admitted that one of his campaign workers submitted fraudulent signatures. That was why he missed being included.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 12/31/2011 6:32:20 PM?????(No. 8244806)

Two reasons this is good news: 1) Virginia can stop looking like fools with their bizarre primary rules; and more importantly 2)

Reply 14 - Posted by: vanimal, 12/31/2011 6:35:25 PM?????(No. 8244811)

Thank-you Attorney General, Ken Cuccinelli, I hope all of Virginia can support this very wise move. You want choices and a chance of picking the next President of the United States. I hope the state can Rally Around this bill and make the Ballot accessible to all the major candidates.

Reply 15 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 12/31/2011 6:37:44 PM?????(No. 8244814)

Two reasons this is good news: 1) Virginia can stop looking like fools with their bizarre primary rules; and more importantly 2) FTA: "The lack of organizing activity also could handicap the eventual Republican nominee next fall in a swing state that both parties consider must-win."

#7/8: Thanx for an excellent analysis (and quick correction of a hilarious error). You're neat.

Reply 16 - Posted by: Passion, 12/31/2011 6:43:35 PM?????(No. 8244822)

Ruh Ruh - this is gonna really confuse the "rules are the rules" crowd.

As for anyone with common sense, you knew that Cuccinelli would come down on the right side, and he has.

Reply 17 - Posted by: mark1973, 12/31/2011 6:51:12 PM?????(No. 8244831)

#12,That might be so about some of Newt's signatures being fraudulent,but because MITTEN'S submitted 15,000 signatures,none of his have to be checked.What's up with that? MITTEN'S could actually have alot more false signature's than Gingrich,but because of some arbitrary standard,that might have been added at a questionable date,so Perry and Gingrich couldn't meet it,MITTEN'S and Ron Paul get to skate away without any of their signature's being checked.Not One!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: anotherctyankee, 12/31/2011 6:56:54 PM?????(No. 8244843)

#12 the number of possibly invalid signatures was not enough to keep him off the ballot. Sorry.

Reply 19 - Posted by: goforth, 12/31/2011 7:25:27 PM?????(No. 8244879)

#18
For your information, Newt's campaign submitted just 10050 signatures.

Governing is more than just being a debater and a motor-mouth. Try not to confuse the two. At some point you actually has to show that you are a doer and not just a talker. Newt failed at the first task he needs to do, and now require special rule to bail him out.

Reply 20 - Posted by: mark1973, 12/31/2011 7:41:48 PM?????(No. 8244908)

#19,Was one, single signature of MITTEN'S and Ron Paul's,verified for authenticity? The answer is No,because of this questionable and arbitrary 15,000 threshold they didn't have to be checked. For all we know,the Virginia republican machine was making these names up in some 'boiler room' in Arlington,or Richmond.Gingrich and Perry probably had alot more legitimate signatures than MITTEN'S!

Reply 21 - Posted by: goforth, 12/31/2011 7:53:39 PM?????(No. 8244922)

#20
Why don't you just invent more wild claims about other candidates when yours fail big time.

Newt should just turn to those activist judges to bail him out.

Reply 22 - Posted by: NellVada, 12/31/2011 7:59:48 PM?????(No. 8244929)

Whatever are you talking about #18, like Newt or not, he has an IMPRESSIVE record of getting things done. "Mr. Newt" has already earned his place in the history books, even if he never does another thing. Indeed he stopped Hillary's socialized medicine plans cold; compare that to Mr. Socialized Medicine Pioneer Romney.

Romney possesses the minimum credentials you would expect of a candidate running for president. He has a presentable family, he is well spoken, he has served one term as governor of a large state, he has been successful in business.

But darn it, he is very liberal, he is a political weathervane, and a lot of us do see it even if you knee jerk Romney supporters won't, or can't, admit it.

Every single one of the other serious Republican candidates, coming from different walks of life as they do, different educational backgrounds, different backgrounds in govt service, also have impressive political as well as personal accomplishments, accomplishments which (unlike Romney's) actually appeal to the GOP base, ESPECIALLY Newt Gingrich!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/31/2011 8:09:11 PM?????(No. 8244937)

Perhaps Paul and Mitt also noted the forms had to be official and their people took time to verify the signatures before they were filed.
perhaps their forms were filed before the last minuet.

Reply 24 - Posted by: goforth, 12/31/2011 8:09:46 PM?????(No. 8244938)

#22
Are you referring to Newt's impressive record of enriching himself as the historian for Freddic Mac and Fannie Mae?

Or the impressive record of being fined for ethical violations while he was in congress?

Or hightailing it out of there when faced with revolt from his conservative house members.

Reply 25 - Posted by: NellVada, 12/31/2011 9:39:37 PM?????(No. 8245035)

I am left speechless at your slanders, #22, I don't know how old you are so I will cut you a little slack, but I was in my 40s during the Gingrich speakership, I worked an evening shift, so living in the west coast, I watched C-span every day, faithfully. What you posted is a lie, and I suggest you do some reading. Keep in mind that the leftist press hated Newt because he was so effective and so popular, and worked tirelessly 24/7 to destroy his popularity and his reputation.

If you do know the truth, and posted this, then shame on you!

Reply 26 - Posted by: Baconandeggs, 12/31/2011 9:43:07 PM?????(No. 8245039)

This is crooked and corrupt through and through. I am completely disgusted with Cuccinelli. The existing law has always worked. This is foul play.

Reply 27 - Posted by: bearcat, 12/31/2011 10:01:41 PM?????(No. 8245058)

Cuccinelli's got bigger fish to fry. You can bet he has other motives. This "change" was the result of a court order in October. And if you're not a VA resident you can't vote in our primary. No conspiracies. Just general incompetence.

Reply 28 - Posted by: mark1973, 12/31/2011 10:35:03 PM?????(No. 8245093)

Also #21,What's up with the 'loyalty oath' when you go to vote in the primaries in Virginia?Yeah,their not trying to fix the nomination for MITTEN'S!

Reply 29 - Posted by: PLPointer67, 1/1/2012 4:45:16 AM?????(No. 8245343)

Well... I see the good will of Christmas and the New Year is over...

Thank you #7 for filling in some of the back story. I had heard about this 'rule change in mid-stream', but not even this article explains it. I saw on the MSM how they mocked Newt for being a bad manager, but they failed to mention the rule change OR that Gov. Perry, Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman, and Rick Santorum also got shut out.

Thank you Ldotters for keeping us informed.

Reply 30 - Posted by: FunOne, 1/1/2012 8:58:20 AM?????(No. 8245517)

#7, thanks for your insight on this matter.

BTW: I tend to interchange Obama and Romney a lot myself.

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